President Barack Obama will sit down for an interview with Hardball host Chris Matthews Thursday evening, the first time the MSNBC host has spoken one-on-one to the president due to the fact April 2008. On Morning Joe Thursday morning, Matthews wondered if Obama’s contemporary moves, possibly including his arrival on Hardball, was as a result of a want to shore up his base after a disastrous rollout of his signature legislation.

“I don’t on a regular basis need them,” Matthews mentioned of excessive-profile company. “I enjoy simply duking it out with politicians at a distance. I don’t need to beg them to come back on my convey. However I all the time notion: I see the president pop up on completely different sorts of displays, leisure displays like Letterman and Leno, and I am going, ‘Why can’t we get him?’”

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“But they made some choices within the White House and they may have to do with these numbers you guys are talking about,” Matthews said, regarding Obama’s woeful poll numbers, especially amongst younger voters. “The president could also be going his base, he may just going to search for the extra innovative voters and grasp that 40%. When you start to dip below forty%, you got to combat, you bought to head on offense in this u . s . a .. That can give an explanation for why he gave that populist speech. When you’re in bother in efficiency and competence you shift the subject to ideology. You convert the topic.”

(Fox & Pals’ Elisabeth Hasselbeck made nearly the identical point, at roughly the identical moment, on her own morning convey.)

“When Reagan was once about to lose that 2d debate back in ’84 they usually had been involved about it, they stated let’s create a special situation afterwards,” Matthews continued. “The question is who isn’t the smartest, but what facet are you on, do you wish to have to return to McGovernism? They are seeking to exchange the lens now. Because they are able to’t make competence over well being care the subsequent six months. The information will not be wonderful, blue skies. So do you want to grind it out over the next six months of day-to-day stories on health care, or do you need change the topic to what kind of a rustic do you want to reside in, and with a bit of luck grasp your rear protect, hang your forty%?”

Watch the full clip beneath, by the use of MSNBC:

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